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Stupid Freaking Auto Installing Spy/Software
Published on October 26, 2003 By russellmz In Personal Computing
I was merrily scrolling through my Add/Remove programs list trying to free some hard drive space by deleting unused programs. I am a virtual packrat, hoarding programs "just in case", or "maybe one day I'll use it". Towards the end I see a program called Viewpoint Media Player. Never downloaded and installed this. Never saw it before. Immediately I knew it was some junk spyware program that somehow got onto my system and didn't get caught by my spyware deleting programs.

So, like any sensible person with a question and an internet connection, I headed to google.com. There I eventaully got to an anti-spyware page that said Viewpoint was bundled with the new version of AIM, which I had downloaded some weeks ago.

Damn. It.

The AIM(AOL Instant Messenger) installer didn't say anything about other programs being installed on my computer. Most likely my firewall stoppped it from sending any random info out but I can't be sure what the damn thing has done.

Here is my privacy policy: I do not want any type of crap on my computer unless I specifically OK it. I do not want anything installed without my permission. I don't want some poorly programmed piece of crap crashing my computer, changing my bookmarks and homepage, and making itself part of the operating system so I can't delete it without instructions from the internet. I do not want programs that record what I am doing. I don't want programs accessing the internet at random intervals to send data to its home servers. I don't care if "At no point is the CUID connected to a user's name, email address, or other personal contact information". I don't freaking believe what is written in the privacy policy (which I didn't even get a chance to read since it installed without my knowledge), nor do I trust your abilities to safeguard my personal data even if you are telling the truth.

When can you install something on my computer? If you get within arms length distance of my computer and can install it before I cave your head in with a baseball bat, then I will allow it.

Anyway, I went to Add/Remove programs, highlighted it, and hit Remove.

Then I went to my file search utility and told it to look for anything with the name "Viewpoint". There were two or three separate folders still on my hard drive with the Viewpoint name. Lazy pieces of crap were too freaking lazy to program the remove utility properly and actually have it REMOVE the damn program. I had to delete the folders manually after making sure that nothing important was in them. Most likely AIM will still function normally over the next few days but now I have a nagging what-if to deal with. F--kers. The both of them.

That is why I like freeware but not adware or spyware. Freeware is usually all about respecting the user. Consider: I have a popup blocker, server proxy that stops internet ads and other annoying internet inventions like auto-playing looping music and scripts that change your bookmarks. I have a firewall. I never download any program unless I am sure it is an official patch/program or that it is a widely known and used freeware program. Yet this thing still got onto my computer and I haven't noticed it for days or weeks. Makes me wonder how many computers are now happily sending info to their home servers. Don't worry too much. I'm quite sure the spyware authors are hard at work making sure that "At no point is [your] CUID connected to a user's name, email address, or other personal contact information".

addendum:
Some people are still having problems even after they delete Viewpoint. The only thing actions I can recommend is after going to Add/Remove and removing Viewpoint to go to Start > Find > Files & Folders and search for "Viewpoint". Delete anything in there that you think is part of the Viewpoint Media Player program. If you still have problems try these spyware removing programs:

Spybot
Adaware

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on Feb 12, 2004
Spyware. Like turkeys: irritating but fun to kill.

~Dan
on Feb 19, 2004
THANK GOODNESS for your article .
I found Viewpoint on my Computer today.
It feels like my computer has been raped and the culprit is saying dont worry i will not tell anyone.
The deed is done why am i supposed to feel fine about it.
You state you got the programme from AIM,im a bit of a novice,what is AIM? so I can get to the source of this and send them an email or two!!!!
ps I got here thru google search so now im joining up.
I downloaded Google taskbar,was this crap inside this download???
Thanks again
ps I removed it with Incinerator{system mechanic}.then a registry healing programme
on Feb 20, 2004
AIM = AOL Instant Messenger

google is pretty upfront about what it installs and does to your computer and most likely has nothing to do with viewpoint.

if you want to send a letter to complain, try your congressman. even if what they did was illegal (and i doubt it given how many stupid spyware programs are out there) the damn spyware companies can always claim it was in some contract you clicked "ok" for some program you never installed or heard of. but try proving it in a court.
on Feb 29, 2004
I wasn't even trying to install AIM. I want absolutely nothing to do with AOL. Now that I know whawt this Viewpoint is, I'm going to wipe it off my machine. To me, it doesn't matter what it does, I don't like surprise installations on my computer. I don't like having anybody in life thinking or acting as if they know what I need. I alone will determine this. For example, I never, ever purchase or consider purchasing a product or service from someone soliciting over the phone or at my door, no matter how good a deal it's supposed to be. Thanks so much for sharing.
on Feb 29, 2004
I wasn't even trying to install AIM. I want absolutely nothing to do with AOL. Now that I know whawt this Viewpoint is, I'm going to wipe it off my machine. To me, it doesn't matter what it does, I don't like surprise installations on my computer. I don't like having anybody in life thinking or acting as if they know what I need. I alone will determine this. For example, I never, ever purchase or consider purchasing a product or service from someone soliciting over the phone or at my door, no matter how good a deal it's supposed to be. Thanks so much for sharing.
on Apr 01, 2004
For a living I work all day removing spyware and malaware from peoples computers, in my opinion forget the spam bill Congress! and lets get on the ball with makers of New.net domain and Internstichial Ad Delivery by Ncase and other low life programming that are keyloggers and hijackers, these programs rip your TCP/Ip and winsock when removed from add/remove and leave alot of my ISP customers with page can not be displayed and never knowing why until they call us and I walk them thru a registry deletion of that crud and repair their winsock....my favorite tools are HiJack This (beware not for the novice) and Spybot S&D, Ad-aware is good also.....
on Apr 04, 2004
I never comment on too many things ;but your article was wht I have been looking for for about 3 weeks. Screw AIM & Viewpoint,and honestly.......... A..h..OL....e for that matter... Your article is one that you should be proud of... I usually have to go round and around surfing...to find truth and its just not as honest or straight to the point ever as it was today after reading your article..Thanks for saving me time..and moreso ...for being straight up.....My glass up to you ! Jimmy Scrappa.......
on Apr 04, 2004
thank you for the kind comments! they say the speech you make when you're angry is the best one you'll ever regret. well, i have no regrets on this one
on Apr 05, 2004
I can not believe this stupid thing. I did the remove program thing and then searched files and folders as recommended. I ended up with 22 differnt items to delete. Great going idiot programmers. I can not stand people that are lazy.
on Apr 05, 2004
Oh yeah I forgot to tell you ... I didnt even download AIM to my system and this crap appeared. BLAH!!!!!
on Apr 05, 2004
Oh yeah I forgot to tell you ... I didnt even download AIM to my system and this crap appeared. BLAH!!!!!
on Apr 07, 2004
Thank You so much for the Viewpoint Manager article. I didn't know what the hell it was, either until I found your article searching the web, looking for info about it....Thanks, again.
on Apr 12, 2004
I downloaded viewpoint media whilst on the Thermaltake website so I could see a 3d demonstration of there computer cases. After viewing this I removed said file using add/remove and deleting any entries after a search, now there is a viewpoint icon in my control panel which I can`t get rid of. Anyone else got this or was it gone after you deleted??
on Apr 12, 2004
I downloaded viewpoint media whilst on the Thermaltake website so I could see a 3d demonstration of there computer cases. After viewing this I removed said file using add/remove and deleting any entries after a search, now there is a viewpoint icon in my control panel which I can`t get rid of. Anyone else got this or was it gone after you deleted??
on Apr 12, 2004
Thanks for your great help!
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